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How to Talk Effectively with Legislators About Our Issues Tips from WISDOM Training Sessions

How to Talk Effectively with Legislators About Our Issues 

Tips from WISDOM Training Sessions

By Sherry Reames

  • Do some research in advance about the committee or individual legislator you’ll be talking to. If possible, get advice from other members of MOSES or WISDOM who have met with these committees or individuals in the past.
  • Spend some time looking at the information that’s available on the web. The legislature’s official website, legis.wisconsin.gov, gives a capsule biography of each legislator that includes their education, professional experience, organizational memberships, committee assignments, etc., and there are even links to the bills they have authored or supported in the past. The legislators also have their own websites, which tend to emphasize their life experience and the issues they have chosen to campaign on.
  • Give your testimony or make your visit as part of a group, if possible, and decide in advance which of you will present each issue or aspect of an issue.
  • Don’t be disappointed if you end up talking with an aide instead of meeting the legislator in person. Often the aides have more experience and expertise on our issues than the legislators they work for.
  • Your speaking time will be limited (just 2 minutes, if it’s a budget hearing!), so use the time well. Jot down the points you want to make, and consider practicing with a stopwatch.
  • Try to say something they are likely to remember because they haven’t heard it before. If you have a powerful personal story, use it. If not, at least mention your own experience or expertise on the issue. If you have recent data or statistics from a reliable source, it’s good to include that, too. If it’s a budget hearing, be sure to give them an estimate of the numbers involved and the anticipated savings.
  • Speak as clearly as possible. Avoid jargon and acronyms that your hearers may not recognize.
  • Be prepared to answer questions about your issue and to counter likely objections. But don’t bluff; if necessary, it’s ok to say you don’t know and will get back to them with the answer. Then follow through, of course.
  • Prepare a written version of your testimony that you can leave in the legislator’s office or email to them later. This written version can give more details, statistics, and sources than you have time to present orally and should also include your contact information.
  • Take good notes (or ask someone else in the group to do so) about the response you receive from each legislator or staff member. How receptive did they seem to our positions on the issues? What questions or objections did they raise? Did they promise to support any of our asks? Did they make any helpful suggestions about ways to proceed?
  • If you met with an individual legislator or aide, follow up a few days later with a note thanking them for their time and suggesting your willingness to continue the conversation.

 

Madison Action Day

By Margaret Irwin

 

Madison Action Day received an extra boost of energy as some 400 participants celebrated the 25th anniversary of WISDOM. The biannual event took place on April 10, beginning with a plenary session at the Masonic Temple. This was followed by a march to the Capitol and a rally on the State Street steps, visits to legislative offices, and a wrap-up at Grace Episcopal Church, before many boarded buses to return to their homes across the state.  

 

The morning program included short videos introducing each of the 14 affiliates. Speakers then explained the values that underlie WISDOM’s work: Radical Inclusion, Costly Reconciliation, and Living for the Seventh Generation. Entertainment was provided by a drum circle led by Talib Akbar and songs from the Raging Grannies. Speakers from MOSES at the Capitol rally included Tammy Jackson, Saundra Brown, and Shel Gross. 

 

In the afternoon, the visitors to legislators’ offices presented demands on four key issues: close the Green Bay Correctional Institution without building another prison; give all immigrants a chance to get a driver’s license; fund our public schools fairly; and expand Badgercare. In addition, visitors had the opportunity to present other issues their affiliates are focusing on. 

 

Many thanks to all the MOSES volunteers who made this event such a success. It was a great send-off for WISDOM Executive Director David Liners, who will be retiring in June.

 

Gearing Up for a Big Madison Action Day (Thursday, April 10)

Gearing Up for a Big Madison Action Day (Thursday, April 10)

by Sherry Reames

 

Although Madison Action Day is still a few weeks away, it’s definitely not too early to start

preparing. The essential first step this year may be to shift our focus from discouraging national

news to the relatively hopeful outlook for our issues here in Wisconsin. We have a better partisan balance in our State Legislature than we’ve seen in many years, a large number of new legislators to meet, and a budget proposal from Governor Evers that includes some of WISDOM’s highest priorities, most obviously the closure of the antiquated prison at Green Bay without building a new prison to replace it. So we will have lots to discuss with our legislators and are hoping for an extra-large and enthusiastic turnout.

 

If you don’t know what to expert, here’s a quick overview of the day’s schedule.

  • 9 am– Check-in at Madison Masonic Center, 301 W. Wisconsin Avenue, Madison
  • WISDOM program– Brief videos introducing all the WISDOM affiliates, presentation of priority issues by inspiring leaders from around the state, music (including songs by Madison’s own Raging Grannies), and a call to action
  • Informal lunch and discussion of plans for the afternoon
  • March to the Capitol (for those who can; rides available for those who can’t)
  • Small-group visits to legislative offices, probably starting at 1 or 1:30 pm
  • Gather at Grace Episcopal Church (across the street from the Capitol) to relax and discuss what we learned

 

Please spread the word about this event! Let your congregations, neighbors, and friends know that Madison Action Day is a great opportunity for learning, inspiration, meaningful activism, and even some fun, and invite them to join us. Here’s the registration link:

bit.ly/madisonactionday2025 .

 

Please register as soon as possible, and remind others to do likewise. It’s not crucial to pay immediately, but the WISDOM organizing committee needs everybody’s names and details well ahead of time. Here’s why: besides placing advance orders for everybody’s T-shirts and lunches, the organizing committee has the big job of matching attendees with legislators, trying to make sure that every single senator and assembly rep will have a visit, either from their own constituents or (if necessary) by volunteers from MOSES and other large affiliates.

 

Please consider participating in the following training opportunities, which are designed to increase the effectiveness of our lobbying efforts this year:

  • WISDOM State budget trainings (including one in Madison on Saturday afternoon, March 15, from 1 to 3 pm, location TBA) will include both expert tips on messaging and story-telling and the opportunity to practice these skills.

New this year! An orientation session for Action Day attendees a week before the event (Thursday evening, April 3, probably on zoom from 6 to 7 pm) will help teams of legislative visitors get organized in advance (deciding who will facilitate, who will speak on each issue, etc.), as well as providing more messaging tips and practice.

Wisconsin Hears About Solitary Confinement

Wisconsin Hears About Solitary Confinement

 On April 23, 2024, in the state Capitol building, a panel of 10 spoke to a packed hearing room about the practice of solitary confinement in Wisconsin’s prisons and jails. The 70-plus listeners included five legislators and about twice that many aides; the panel included seven who had spent time in solitary, two ministers, and a woman who had recently lost her dad to suicide in solitary. 

The first speaker was MOSES’s own Talib Akbar, who designed, and with the help of Edgewood College students built, a solitary confinement cell replica that is (as of December) on display at The Crossing on the UW campus. Akbar said that solitary changes people, alters them in some way. He began his volunteer effort to apprise the public about the realities of solitary in 2014 and has taken the cell, which people can actually sit in and experience, to various places in Madison, to different cities in Wisconsin, and to a few other states. He has also written a play, “Like an Animal in a Cage,” which has been performed by people who have spent time in solitary. He noted that the Wisconsin DOC has reduced maximum time in solitary from 360 days/year to 90, but said the practice needed to be ended entirely.

“Incarceration is one of the social deterrents to public health,” said Melissa Ludin from the ACLU. “A person who’s gone to prison is 12 times more likely to die than one who hasn’t been to prison. Incarceration causes PTSD, and solitary makes it even worse. Solitary is a jail within a prison.”

Ludin spent 100 days in solitary during an imprisonment in her youth; she was taken out only twice, for medical appointments. She still feels the long-term effects of that experience, though she’s been out since 2007.

Prince Rashad grew up in the early ‘80s and ended up in Green Bay Correctional Institution at age 18. In solitary, he became suicidal; “the experience made me more dangerous,” he said. He was sent to solitary six times; each time it was devastating. 

“It brings no resolution or rehabilitation,” he said. “We need to align our criminal justice system with international human rights standards. Solitary confinement exacerbates existing psychological conditions — or starts new ones.”

Randy Forsterling said he was in Supermax for seven years and spent 360 days in solitary, so much time that it got to be routine, he said. He had friends who were “in the hole” for 20 to 30 years. When his mom died, he couldn’t even cry, he felt so stripped of his humanity. “People in solitary aren’t even seen as human beings,” he said.

Politics is the root cause of the prison system’s problems, Forsterling said. For example, the 1994 crime bill almost tripled Wisconsin’s prison population. He said that “we the people” need to get decent people elected and restore rehabilitative programs, which have slowly been disappearing, back into the system. The DOC doesn’t let people participate in the programs they must complete until near the end of their sentence, he said, which means they can’t complete them soon enough to be considered for release anywhere close to on time.

Megan Kolb tearfully related her father’s last days before he hanged himself after nine days in solitary confinement. He spent those days begging for his psychiatric meds, which he had not gotten in 71 days. He was given no paper, no pen, no books. “We need rehabilitation, not torture,” she declared.

“Bobby” was paroled three years ago by John Tate II (the crowd applauded this name), 27 years into a 60-year sentence. He spent over seven years in solitary. He went in with PTSD due to the loss of his parents, and while in prison received notice via phone that his brother had died. He got no support beyond the empathetic silence of fellow prisoners when his phone call was announced. “Solitary is torture,” he said. “I survived by will alone.” Bobby is now a state-certified peer-support specialist.

Jessica Jacobs is now the director of FREE, which advocates for incarcerated and previously incarcerated women. Two of FREE’s current campaigns are 1) to get doulas in prisons to assist pregnant women and 2) to end the shackling of pregnant women.

Jessica described additional dehumanizing aspects of prison that she experienced: being known only by a number, or maybe one’s last name; being physically abused and completely at the mercy of the guards; being put in solitary for no reason, perhaps even during the booking process. She said the reasons people are imprisoned — PTSD, trauma, sexual assault, substance abuse —  are all signals of poverty, and that’s what we need to deal with. We need to expand programming within and outside the prisons, and to offer trauma therapy, not solitary confinement!

Ron Stief talked about the National Religious Campaign Against Torture (NRCAT), which started 20 years ago out of concern about U.S.-run prisons in Iraq and of Iraqis, e.g. Guantanamo. Five years in, the campaign began to also address the torture in stateside prisons. There have been some successes, e.g. in Maine, where the head of the Maine Department of Corrections (DOC) rewrote its policies. Rick Raemisch, who moved from heading the Wisconsin DOC to directing its parallel in Colorado, spent a few hours in a solitary-cell replica and ended up eliminating solitary confinement in Colorado prisons. 

NRCAT has legislative campaigns in 23 states. Michigan has made some progress. Illinois has passed the Nelson Mandela Act: no more than 10 days in solitary, and no more than 20 hours/day. California has passed the Mandela Act, but the governor has threatened to veto it. That happened in New York, too, so the legislature assembled a veto-proof majority. From written legislation to passage took eight years!  In New Jersey, there was a confluence of state legislators, faith communities, and activists. Legislators sat in a solitary cell replica, wrote a bill, and had it signed into law in 2022.

There are lots of people in solitary in city jails, too, Stief said, adding that 60-90% of those in solitary would do fine in the general prison/jail population. We have a fear-based system, he said.

The role of the faith community? Working to end torture is a moral absolute, he said. The fight will be long, but it’s worth it. We need the voices of all of us working together.

Legislators respond

“I never thought I’d be legislating [the right of] ‘seeing the sky,’” Rep. Ryan Clancy (D-Milwaukee) said. “The standard is so incredibly low in Wisconsin.”

What gives him hope, said Rep. Darrin Madison (D-Milwaukee), is that advocacy is breaking through, and other states are passing legislation. “When I see advocacy by people who’ve been transitioning back [from prison], with so much pain and such lack of resources, in a world that tells them they’re worth nothing – it gives me the will to sit in this space, which can be one of the most toxic in the state. I know that it can happen here [too], in a state that has a perverse relationship with incarceration.”

“A lot of folks just don’t know,” he added. “They buy into building more prisons, giving more money to the police … The real solution is safety nets … ‘Know that we have your backs,’” he added, addressing those who are system-impacted.

Rev. Willy Brisco of MICAH gave the closing blessing, starting with a little story about God looking down on our institutions of slavery, prisons, and war and saying, “’That’s not what I meant!’”

“Tell someone what you heard today, and don’t be silent again,” Rev. Brisco admonished everyone. The crowd responded with a firm “Amen!”

WISDOM members delivered informational packets to all legislators’ offices after the event. 

What is the “23” Campaign?

Since May 23, 2024, MOSES members have been gathering on the Capitol’s State Street steps once a month at noon on the 23rd to draw attention to the fact that hundreds of people are being subjected to solitary confinement in Wisconsin’s prisons and jails, and to demand that the state put an end to this practice. The 23rd was chosen to draw attention to the fact that people in solitary spend 23+ hours/day alone in their tiny cells. They may spend the other hour someplace else, but still alone. 

The United Nations has declared that solitary confinement for more than 15 days is torture. By that measure, we are torturing hundreds of people in Wisconsin’s prisons and jails. Said WISDOM’s David Liners: “Wisconsin needs to join the states that have adopted the ‘Mandela rule’ that limits the practice to 15 days, and that for only in extraordinary circumstances.”

 

Community Forum Calls for Ending the Lockdowns and Justice Reinvestment  

Community Forum Calls for Ending the Lockdowns and Justice Reinvestment  

by Sherry Reames

 

This community forum, organized by WISDOM, EXPO, and MOSES, drew a large and attentive audience to Madison’s First Unitarian Society on Feb. 1. Longtime Madison journalist Gil Halstead emceed the discussion, which included testimonies on the current prison crisis from the perspectives of formerly incarcerated people, relatives of current prisoners, and state legislators from the Madison area.

 

The evening began with updates on the problem from James Wilbur, outgoing director of prison outreach for WISDOM. In contradiction to press releases from Gov. Evers and DOC Secretary Carr, Wilbur confirmed from witnesses inside Waupun and Green Bay Correctional Institutions that there have been no substantial changes to the inhumane conditions reported last fall. The buildings are filthy and infested with rodents, prisoners are still locked in their cells nearly all the time, and even needed medical care is not being provided. No change will come, he concluded, until the responsible authorities are held accountable.

 

Mark Rice, coordinator of WISDOM’s Transformational Justice Campaign, outlined the measures that can and should be taken to reform the system – starting with practical steps to reduce the prison population. These steps include expanding TAD (Treatment Alternatives and Diversions) to include people who just need mental health treatment, abolishing crimeless revocations (a system the DOC controls and could end unilaterally, ending thousands of unnecessary imprisonments), increasing the use of earned release and parole, and using the governor’s clemency power to commute excessively long sentences. Some of these remedies would require legislative action, but others are completely within the governor’s control. It is worth remembering that Gov. Evers said during his 2018 campaign that he supported the swift closing of at least two prisons (Green Bay and Milwaukee Secure Detention Facility). That still needs to happen; and when it does, the state will save a great deal of money, which should be reinvested in education, mental health, and other services to rebuild the communities most affected by crime.

 

The two Madison legislators on the panel emphasized their own commitment to criminal-justice reform but also noted that change will not come quickly. They both know the criminal-legal system well. State Sen. Kelda Roys, who worked with The Innocence Project and visited some Wisconsin prisons as a law student, noted the deep racial injustice in the system and said current practice actually makes us less safe by focusing on harsh punishment instead of rehabilitation. Rep. Shelia Stubbs previously worked as a probation officer and as a social worker focusing on domestic violence cases. Given her experience with the obstacles to successful re-entry, she suggested that plans for release should start as soon as an individual enters prison, not just before the end. Both legislators have signed on as co-sponsors to several new bills to improve conditions of confinement. Realistically, they explained, we need to start with small steps in order to get any win out of the Legislature.

 

Some of the most dramatic testimony at the forum came from people whose incarcerated family members have been abused by prison staff. Kerrie Hirte’s 20-year-old daughter died in the Milwaukee County Jail last year when, despite being on suicide watch, she choked to death on an item the guards had given her. Another parent reported that her son at Waupun became suicidal after guards pepper-sprayed him for talking back, then tased him for resisting, stripped him naked, and sent him to solitary confinement, where he was told that nobody would care if he died. Another mother said her son was deemed dangerous and locked up after attempting “suicide by cop” and being shot nine times. When his physical condition deteriorated, the nurse suggested Tylenol; and the DOC didn’t notify his family even when he became septic, nearly died, and spent a month in the hospital.

 

Other attendees shared signs of hope and suggestions for reforming the system. Eugene Nelson from Project Return in Milwaukee mentioned his own achievements since release and urged us all to keep visiting and calling the legislators on the other side. He held up the example of Illinois, which has just passed sweeping legislation on crimeless revocation. Corey Marionneaux briefly described his own experience with revocation and his current work as founder of the Black Men Coalition here in Dane County. Tom Gilbert of MOSES told us about the Short Term Sanctions Bill (Act 196) passed in 2013, a law that should have increased the alternatives to revocation but has never been implemented by the DOC. MOSES Community Organizer James Morgan reminded us that the whole culture of the DOC needs to be addressed. Administrative law judges have too much unsupervised power, and the youth correctional institutions need to be addressed as well as the adult ones.

 

The strongest take-away message from the evening was to not give up: keep lobbying for the changes we want to see, remember to vote, and do what we can to turn out the vote in this election year. Sen. Melissa Agard, outgoing Wisconsin Senate minority leader, pointed out that change is almost certainly coming to our Legislature. Once new district lines are determined, legislators will have to run in more competitive districts and build more coalitions across party lines. Sen. Roys noted that some current Republican legislators are already willing to work across the aisle, co-sponsoring some moderate bills for reform. Rep. Stubbs reminded us that it’s important to keep applying pressure to the Governor’s Office and the DOC as well. Mike Carlson of MOSES suggested that we take Michigan as a role model: they have turned their government around, and so can we.

 

WISDOM Leadership Retreat Held Jan. 17-18

WISDOM Leadership Retreat Held Jan. 17-18

by Pam Gates

 

MOSES members turned out in force for this retreat, which was held at the Green Lake Conference Center near Green Lake, Wis. Deborah Adkins, Talib Akbar, Saundra Brown, Phil Carlson, Barbie Jackson, Jessica Jacobs, Rachel Kincade, James Morgan, and I attended from MOSES. Along with other WISDOM members from around the state, we learned more about diversity, Integrated Voter Engagement, and each other – and about the specific issues that drew us together.  We shared excellent meals, trying to sit with people we didn’t know yet. Many of us participated in a talent show, where some real talent showed up in the form of poetry, storytelling, an amusing skit, and song. There was a guided meditation session, and plenty of time to sit with each other and talk.

 

In the presidents’ meeting, new MOSES president Saundra Brown learned that some of MOSES’s counterparts around the state are struggling with membership, fundraising, or other issues. Hope was expressed that stronger members, like MOSES, can offer support to those having trouble. Saundra mentioned this at the Feb. 4 general meeting, to get at least some of us thinking about how we can offer that support.

 

Another important result of the conference was the election of former MOSES president Rachel Kincade as a vice president of WISDOM. Now both WISDOM vice presidential positions are held by MOSES members; Talib Akbar is the other WISDOM vice president.

 

The retreat inspired a few poems; here is one that I wrote.

 

We’ve drifted in, making our way

Down slippery roads

Through bitter cold

From all across the state,

And here we are

In this quiet place

Of dazzling winter beauty.

We stay.

 

Something here feeds our souls.

Something here slakes our thirst

For justice – or a dream of it, at least.

 

We reach across deep chasms

Empty of promise

And fill them with the hope

Of a shared, joyous future.

 

We stay, and gain some power

That we didn’t have before

Gain strength to stand

A little taller, to be a little braver

A little more outspoken

Than we ever were before.

 

We stay, knowing we’ll go back

To where we came from

To help lift other souls

Also longing to be free

Of oppression’s might,

which is, perhaps, more powerful

And more insidious

Than it’s ever been before.

 

Back we go

Back down those slippery roads,

Strengthened by the spirit of this place

And all that we’ve encountered here.

 

We leave new friends

We carry new hope

We’ve healed a bit, and –

We’re going forth

To help with healing

A little more able

Than we were before.